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Cops Versus Cameras

A tripod shouldn't be treated as an instrument of terror, writes Jim Cameron.

 

The political season in Darien has begun on a note of controversy, with one candidate for first selectman alleging that police recently hassled him.

That's right: Chris Noe is running again as an independent. And he's kick-started his campaign with some self-made videos shot around town. As Noe pans his camera over scenes of the Boat Club or the new Police Station, he ad libs about how he'd set things right.

Well, no sooner had Noe finished one shoot downtown near the train station than Darien's finest showed up and — according to Noe's write-up — "detained" him for a half-hour after he refused to let them search his car.

Is Chris Noe a terrorist? I think not. He might not get my vote, but I'll defend his right to take pictures in a public place.

Darien Police Chief Duane Lovello, who grew up and went to school with Noe, said the videographer set off alarm bells (no, not literally) when he took pictures of the railroad bridge.

Do we honestly think members of Al Qaeda are standing in broad daylight on the Post Road with a camera and tripod plotting attacks on Metro-North? Really?

A couple of weeks ago, I was interviewed by WABC-TV while standing on the platform at Noroton Heights station. We were talking about the usual Metro-North problems when MTA Police pulled up in two squad cars.

"You got a permit?" the MTA cop asked the reporter standing about 10 feet from his satellite truck.

"Why does he need a permit?" I asked.

"Because he's on Metro-North property," said the officer.

"No, he isn't," I said. "This is CDOT property, not Metro-North's".

"Well, he still needs a permit," insisted the officer, now asking for our IDs. The reporter demurred, telling me this happens to him all the time.

"Officer … if he doesn't use the tripod, can he take pictures with his camera without a permit?" I asked.

"Sure … that's OK," said the cop. Apparently it's the presence of a tripod that makes the video shoot a threat to our security.

MTA officials should learn from Amtrak when it comes to rail fans and photos. These train lovers (or "foamers," as they're called by the railroads) used to get hassled by cops when they took pictures of trains and stations. Now, Amtrak sees them not as a terrorist threat but as allies. Who knows better what looks out of place than a rail fan? If they see something, they say something.

In an era where ever cell phone is a camera — where HD video cameras can be concealed in a hat or miniaturized to the size of a shirt button — many police seem worried about people with tripods conducting journalism, promoting their candidacy, or just taking pictures of their home town. 

Amazing. I guess the terrorists have won.

About this column: A Darien voice on Darien matters.

arden anderson broecking

2:34 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Our paranoia, political and other, is obviously aimed in the wrong direction.

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Siwanoy

6:44 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

wouldn't have been the first time an illegal search was done by the DPD, it's their specialty.

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Rusty Shakleford

11:31 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

There was no search therefore not illegal. Don't be a jailhouse lawyer. You just sound uninformed and uneducated.

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Chris Noe

8:35 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

August 1983
New London Court House
New London, Connecticut
A "jailhouse lawyer" overturned his "murder for hire conviction" and was released.

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Siwanoy

9:39 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

@Rusty, where did I say that there was a search? Next time, I suggest you read and understand it before calling some one uneducated and making yourself look uneducated.

Jim Cameron

10:00 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

From a professional photographer who (for reasons too obvious) requests to remain anonymous...

"Darien is not alone - in fact it represents the latest the latest assault on our civil liberties.

As a photojournalist, my calling cards are my photos and this creates problems, so I am intimately aware of that this has been going on for years since 9/11. I call it a knee-jerk reaction by our law enforcement community mindset. It is a misguided attempt at is called security. For years, a public place was good enough when it came to taking photos.

Now, it seems that police are taking matters into their own hands by making up this 'no photo' policy. CDOT, the MTA and other transportation agency media relations personnel have told me that the policy was that so long I was on a public place like a train platform, I was ok.This is where the confusion arises.

Personally, I've had several occasions to give a justified reply but this would only be met with handcuffs - so I played the game - show them some id and they let you go. Recently, I was harassed by Metro-North personnel on the NY State side of the border. The 'train master' didn't come out to talk to me but called MTA PD first then told me it was against policy - which was completely against what I've been told by the Metro-North Press Office and later the MTA Press Office. Call the police first, ask questions later is now the norm.

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Jim Cameron

10:01 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

More from my photographer friend...

"There seems to be a message that is missing between the press office and the individual police depts. Amtrak has been no angel, arrest of photographers and/or deletion of their images has occurred in recent years. It should be noted that their most recent policy only raises more questions than answers as they're creating a database of friendly photogs (who knows where that list winds up) but conflicts over what photo is taken where is only the beginning of the issues on the table of discussion.

There's no logic behind this 'photo policy' that is in direct conflict with our constitutional rights.

With all this said, let me clue you in what's behind this police 'enforcement'. The goal is catching those with outstanding warrants for tickets that are unpaid among other reasons. If someone is in this situation, they cuff you and haul you in. Policemen then get a gold star for catching someone on the wrong side of the law with some new charges to boot as they've 'done their job'. It is all about ticket and arrest numbers and increased numbers mean departments can require larger budgets - which arises from the fact that police are now required to be 'revenue generating cost centers'.

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Jim Cameron

10:01 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Part 3 from the photog...

"By the way, tripods on platforms are a safety issue as people can trip over the legs - even imaginary ones that are not on the platform.

This illegal harassment by police departments has got to stop. Press credentials used to prevent this harassment but press credentials are no longer a safeguard.

On the bright side, one railroad official once told me, "I've told law enforcement if someone with a camera has his back to the sun and looks like they know what they're doing - those guys are not the terrorists. The ones you have to be concerned about are the ones that take photos into the sun doing crazy things." This quote seems to sum it all up."

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neemers

12:14 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

My husband is a transit fanatic, loves busses, trains, trolleys. I take lots of pictures for him. A while back I was shooting some trolleys in Philadelphia that were goin to be demolished. I was on public property but was stopped by septa police , he took our drivers licenses and even asked my husband how much he weighed. The next day I got a call from the FBI with all kinds of questions. All because my husband likes to look at the pictures. I think with all that's going on in the world they can find better use for their time.

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jimboylan

2:40 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Yes, the tripod can be a tripping hazard, and the photographer using it can cause a traffic jam, because he may be stationary, or have a harder time getting out of the way of "The Dashing Commuter". But these concerns, while probably real, are still not terrorism, except in the minds of someone trying to meet an arrest quota.

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Jerry M. LaBoda

7:02 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Anyone who is desiring to take photographs from public locations have the right to do so but I would recommend that they get a copy of Attorney Bert P. Krages II's print-out titled "Photographer's Rights." All a person needs to do is Google his name or the title to find it on the web. It is a valuable resouce that clearly states what the Law says about such photography, where a person can be and where a person cannot be.

As for the reporter trying to do a report from the train platform, contrary to popular belief the property is not Public, it is owned by the respective transit authority. And Metro North police responding to an incident on Connecticut DOT platforms... it is likely that ConnDOT has a contract for them to police certain stations.

There are places photographers can go to shoot whatever they choose and specifics about what the Law says is our Right to do so. If you plan on photographing anything out in public learn what can and cannot be done. Get a copy of the Photographer's Rights. It will give the photographer some legal teeth that the police can not refute and could help to turn the tide of the strong armed harassment.

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American Railfans

9:08 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

I'm sorry, but talking about this continuing issue hasn't and isn't going to accomplish much.

The time for talking has past. It is time for some people to be unemployed for their actions. It is time for some various agencies to be sued for large sums of money. Only then will these Barney Fife types get the message. There will be no American Gestapo tolerated

This nonsense should be a loud wake up call to everyone about just what sort of people we place in these authority positions. It is time that a reevaluation of the selection processes and training policies for individuals placed in these positions takes place.

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Chris Noe

10:52 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Jimmy, The terrorists can't win nor union labor. duc06820 is my YouTube channel. The masthead states I created the Ultra-Conservative Party. Darien's conservatives are moderate at best. The 25 videos are pretty poor with my iPhone but good fodder non-the-less, I get my point across. Darien is changing and we need to steer the direction with bold leadership. I am filling a vacuume.

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Luca Duff Cruz

3:08 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Cops in darien catch underage drinkers, people not wearing seatbelts and now train photographers.
They dont catch burglers....as burglers are REAL criminals.
I remember reading about 2 months ago, an off duty cop ran a stop sign--caused an accident..with injuries--and guess what? He was given a warning. A warning--for going through a stop sign causing injuries. However, if you have a can of beer in your home at 20 years old--they will come down hard on you.
This is why we need an 18 million dollar building. To make sure the beer consumption is down--but they dont give a damn about car crashes that injure people. There you get a warning. Oh , and the motorcycle cop? He 'll get you for going 38 in a 35 and from what I hear--doesnt want to hear a word. Unless maybe you are an off duty cop who caused injuries--then its not a big deal. 3 mph over might cause an accident. But if you do--then no citation. Just a warning----go figure the logic.

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Rusty Shakleford

11:12 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

I don't know what a "burgler" is but if you read the Darien Times, the police caught a burglar who entered a home at night when the residents were sleeping. After he was confronted by the homeowner, he fled the residence and was caught less then an hour later. That burglar has just been sentenced to 5 years in prison.
The off duty Cop allegedly ran a red light not a stop sign. Police are given discretion on what type of enforcement that they want to take. In the case you were referring to, the Officer received a written warning.
No Police Officer is going to go into a 20 year old persons house for drinking a beer. It's when 20-30 and upwards of 20 year old people are drinking alcohol on property that in all likelihood belongs to their parents or the public, then you may attract police attention. In most cases the parents don't want kids drinking at their house because of liability. I know as a parent that I wouldn't want kids consuming alcohol at my house because if one dies of an overdose or in an accident, I wouldn't want to defend myself in the civil suits that I will no doubt be served with.

Rusty Shakleford

12:08 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

I think that there is a 13 year old boy in Oslo that begged for his life after watching his Father get executed that wished the Police were more vigilant when dealing with suspicious activity. Who would have thought a blond haired blue eyed Caucasian would be responsible for the death of 80-90 people of his own nationality. There have been reports that Anders Behring Breivik used surveillance before initiating the attacks. The bottom line is if you want to video tape mass transit or public buildings, be prepared to explain why you are there. If you see something say something we are told. I think if the Officer hadn't been vigilant and observed the Subject videotaping the R/R Station, someone would have called to report the suspicious activity and the Officer would have an obligation to investigate the incident. I hate to "Monday morning Quarterback" but maybe the Oslo tragedy could have been avoided with vigilance. I commend the Officer for doing his job.

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Luca Duff Cruz

3:11 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

rusty you have to be kidding. Using the tragic incident in Oslo to somehow justify harrassing a guy taking a cell phone picture?

You honestly should be ashamed of yourself for bastardizing the Oslo incident, to make a weak point ----fear mongering and abandoning any and all perspective is not really analagous to this situation. There were no trains involved in Norway. Are you really going to somehow tell us that ALL public pictures should be banned? Your analogy is beyond perverse.

Oh and--"you wouldnt want a 20 year old drinking on your property -because if he overdoses and dies (get this!) you wouldnt want the civil suits. Really? Thats what would concern you? The lawsuits? And what if a 21 year old drinks and dies in your house Rusty? Then its different? Ridiculous stuff.
And the oslo incident did not have anyone taking pictures on a railroad track--and rusty--thats what the issue here is.

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Luca Duff Cruz

3:24 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Rusty , by the way--you don't know what a burgler is but you do know what a burglar is. Cute.
So, in turn, when you say that "I think that there is a 13 year old boy in Oslo that begged for his life after watching his Father get executed that wished..." you might want to know that, unless the boy's father was God, you shouldn't capitalize the word. Not that I care--but apparently this is very important to you.....calling people uneducated and uniformed.... maybe you should step it up a bit Mr. Educated.

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Chris Noe

6:56 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

I would like to explain my encounter with a Darien cop after filming (with an iPhone) from the sidewalk on Rt 1. The cop was rude and agressive with escalating antisocial behavior. After I had explained what I was doing, making a campaign video to post on YouTube and running for 1st Selectman. Condescending he said, "You're running for 1st Selectman, I know the 1st Selectman." I had explained I lived in town 25 years. He looked at my license in his hand and referred to me as Chris. He said something about, "In this day and age don't you think I have the authority to do this." I said, I would not interfere with him doing his job. He said, "Well then you won't mind if I search your vehicle (motorcycle)." I said, I do mind. That was followed by his curt response, "OK, we'll do it that way," he called backup. Under intimidation of his firearm I was ordered to stand in one place until other officers arrived. I was then placed in the custody of another officer as he spent time in his K9 truck with the dog barking constantly. As the midday sun began to sting my face the officer told me to not make any sudden moves because he (K9 cop) might think I am threatened. The K9 cop returned flaunting his Napoleon Complex and handed me my license. He then proceeded to tell me if I had any problem with what he had done I could come to the police station "now" and make a complaint.
This cop had every opportunity to tone it down. He did just the opposite and ramped it up.

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Chris Noe

7:04 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

I need to film another video in front of the police station titled, Too Many Cops. We can lose the K9 cop and his dog. We can lose the motorcycle cops. We can lose half the police force as it has doubled in the past 20 years... for what? The only heros in Darien are our 100% volunteer firefighters. Maybe we should consider a volunteer police force.

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