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Stefanonis Propose Floating Affordable Housing Zone

The regulation would allow any property owner in town to build an 8-30g-compliant development.

Developers Chris and Margaret Stefanoni — long known for doing battle with Darien over their proposed multifamily developments — are pitching a new approach to affordable housing in town: a floating zone.

In an Aug. 4 filing with the , the couple proposes an amendment to the town's regulations that would give "every property owner in the Town of Darien the right and opportunity to develop their property with affordable housing."

If enacted, the plan would create a special zone that any landowner in Darien could apply to their property. The owner would then be allowed to develop affordable housing consistent with Connecticut General Statute 8-30g, which requires that at least 30 percent of the units be priced below market rate.

"This floating zone will not only permit new development or redevelopment with significantly higher density, but would also allow many of the illegal 'in-law' apartments to automatically become conforming under the zoning regulations [provided the units comply with town and state requirements]," the proposal states.

"The intent of this Affordable Housing Floating Zone is to facilitate private development of affordable housing with a density that has already been found to be acceptable by the Town of Darien," it adds.

The proposal goes on to describe various setback and density guidelines for the zone. Developments would be limited to three stories and a density of 35 units per acre.

Between 1.5 and 2.0 parking spaces per unit would be required, depending on whether the units were designated for seniors.

In a written statement, Chris Stefanoni said that the proposal "is especially for the little guy, because there are too many lawyers, liars, and bullies at the top."

"Many people have approached me on how they can develop affordable housing on their own property, and this is exactly the vehicle they need," Stefanoni said. "The Town will never build affordable housing on its own, so this amendment gives power to every property owner and allows them to rise up, fight back, and accomplish what the local government is unwilling to do despite clear housing mandates by the state and federal government."

As written, the proposal would potentially allow developers to do an end-run around the 8-30g moratorium .

Normally 8-30g provides a favorable appeals process to affordable housing developers as a means of encouraging construction. But on the basis of affordable units added over the past two decades, the Department of Economic and Community Development granted the town a four-year reprieve in the fall.

Earlier this year, the Stefanonis' on that moratorium decision — a possible precursor to a lawsuit. 

But their request was rejected, partly on the grounds that the couple had no active affordable housing proposals before the P&Z commission and therefore lacked standing. (The Stefanonis in May.)

The couple's floating zone proposal may improve their standing for future legal challenges, however, as the text specifically references the Stefanonis' 149 Nearwater Ln. address as a possible location for affordable housing.

According to P&Z Director Jeremy Ginsberg, the couple's plan would not be the first floating zone in Darien. The town already has a Municipal Use Zone on the books, which Ginsberg said has been used for the and headquarters.

A public hearing for the plan will likely be scheduled for October or November, Ginsberg said.

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james clarke August 10, 2011 at 02:34 pm
Since the long awaited Allen-Oneill expansion is again delayed due to funding the timing of this is fantastic. And, since we live in the third least affordable housing town in the state it is high time we all rise up and make a difference. Forget about the moratorium. If my property gets a zone change to allow 14 units I'm doing my part ASAP. C'mon everyone!!! Don't sell your house for a loss. Knock it down and put in condos.
David Popoff August 10, 2011 at 03:09 pm
Though at first this seems like a reasonable proposal it might not be once you start examining the facts. Such as the impact of 35 units on one acre resulting in extra traffic, pedestrian safety, additional sidewalks, parking, sewer, water and utility needs. Then what about the neighbors who have invested in their one family homes, it would seems if you have a home on one acre besides a 30+ apartment building your value would go down, as well as the neighborhood value. Reasonable development for the zoning is the answer. This is why we have zoning, to create safe and sustainable neighborhoods with master development plans for the town and generations. Affordable housing is a long term project that needs to be thought out, not just slapped in.
Chris Noe August 10, 2011 at 05:36 pm
Floating 8-30G??? Great idea. Let"s load it on a barge and sink it in Long Island Sound along with Alllen-O"Neill Redevelopment
sebastian dangerfield August 10, 2011 at 08:54 pm
James
I find it simply amazing (yes AMAZING) that everything you post you get wrong. The 3rd least affordable housing? How can you just say such baloney? Rise up and make a difference? What are you talking about? You are welcome to deed your house now as affordable housing. And sell to someone who needs that lift that you pretend to want to offer. Do it. The Stefanonis and you are so clever--"with a density that has already been found to be acceptable by the Town of Darien," Oh really? Wow!!! If it's already acceptable, then why not do it? You dont need a new law, that already is a law. My god. People who twist and turn and then call people "liars and bullies" ---its all so disgusting. This guy actually think he is so clever that no one is smart enough to figure his manure. And James--seriously--is there anything you can get right?
sebastian dangerfield August 10, 2011 at 09:02 pm
No one needs to think about this.
Zoning restrictions are in place, to protect homeowners against changing the situation around their home. You buy stocks , when you know the rules are enforced by the SEC against insider trading. All investments are predicated on the basis of understanding what variables are permissable to change. If you buy a house in a residential area with restrictions, the cost is XXX . If you buy a house in a zone that has potential for commercial proprty development, it costs XXX-minus YYY . Stefanoni and his ridiculous angle of pretending to know all about real estate and development, and then making proposals such as this, that make it seem as though the deck is stacked by some King. The rules are in place, as a result of not protecting those in town hall, but those who own the homes. His logic is simply backwards.
sebastian dangerfield August 10, 2011 at 09:57 pm
I just realized what your mistake is and what you misinterpreted.
Darien is the 3rd least affordable town to live in. (median house price vs median income) Not the town with the 3rd least affordable housing.
Palmer Reed August 11, 2011 at 03:51 pm
After picking myself off the floor from the hysterical laughter I experienced after reading this article, I thought about this for one minute.....Having had their kiesters handed to them in decision-after-decision and having made themselves pariahs becauses of their bullying tactics, the Stefanoni's now say to the Town: "Okay, we give up.....just give us the perpetual right to do whatever we want, wherever we want, just because we feel like it...." Oh God...this so funny, I can't stand it.....I feel another bought of hysterical laughter welling up.......
Libby Jones August 11, 2011 at 05:36 pm
Palmer, you are laughing too soon and if history is correct, your laughter may turn to tears. The nature of the affordable housing game is that it takes many many years and success comes after numerous defeats. Just look at Avalon. They're always denied and had their "keisters handed" to them time and time again by the local boards, but.... as Avalon's pockets are deep they fight and always prevail in the courts and the apartment buildings eventually get built. I don't think anybody has beated Avalon ever. so I think you are shortsighted. There are many years left before it's over. I don't understand the reason for this new zone change but I can tell you this.... I bet everyone is going to be taking a sideways glance at their neighbors. In this economy, this zone change could be dangerous.
sebastian dangerfield August 11, 2011 at 06:26 pm
Libby--
Garden Homes won. The town is pushing for more units in Allen O'Neill. Avalon is bordered by 95 and the train tracks. They won, because, they had a case. Not because they had deep pockets. Stefanoni is totally different. He proposes these obviously unbuildable projects -I dont remember the number of units on Hoyt Street, but lets say its 30 on 3/4 of an acre in the middle of single family homes. If Stefanoni, truly wanted to win-and get affordable housing, he would choose, similar to Avalon, to find land in a place that wont markedly diminish the value of the neighbors land around him. Im not sure if his game is simple greenmail, or if it's to antagonize people, but clearly there are options in Darien, for him to house seniors at affordable rates , if he so chooses. He has simply decided to be a thorn in everyone's side. What that accomplishes escapes me--but it does not look as though housing people is actually his goal. Avalon's objective is and was to build and fit into a community. There is a huge difference. As they have said in the P and Z meetings "what have you built Mr and Mrs Stefanoni? " Nothing. But he has made more money in real estate than anyone in the last 5 years. He doesnt want to build. P and Z has granted him approval on a limited basis. He didnt build. Why? Because that's not his game.
Libby Jones August 11, 2011 at 07:07 pm
Luca you are smarter than that. People say they like Avalon now and say it fits in, but were you not in Darien when they were first trying to build it? It was perceived as the end of the world. A ghetto in the making. Avalon isn't trying to fit in nor buy property that does or does not diminish the neighborhood market value. Orange and Stratford and Wilton don't believe what you think. Avalon is a multi-BILLION dollar company that buys whatever large tracts of land that are available and towns hate the prospect of Avalon coming to town-- what it does to the school enrollments etc. Avalon doesn't care about school enrollments.... it's trying to make money. It's a for-profit company that uses its size and economies of scale to build enormous projects. Besides, you are the only person who thinks the P&Z approved the Stefanoni projects. Local boards always scale affordable housing projects back to almost nothing and then say, oh but we approved it, we're not anti-affordable housing. Were you really fooled Luca?
sebastian dangerfield August 11, 2011 at 09:29 pm
Libby
Its Apples and Oranges (no pun intended). Avalon is rejected in these towns, not on the basis of protecting homeowners. It is rejected on the notion that having multiple units built for families. The fear to the towns, is that the number of schoolchildren and costs to the education, including special ed, outpace the amount of taxes that are brought in. Avalon was fought. It makes sense to try to keep them out on the basis of cost only. ( I hope no one decides that they can pin some offensive label here--because it's simply about expenses vs revenues). The Stefanoni issue is about protecting homeowner value--not so much about costs to the town. Im not fooled. I think you are simply cynical. The objections to the Stefanoni project are founded in saftey, traffic etc. It makes sense to me that they would consider a smaller project acceptable. Turn it around Libby---do you really think that 30 units on Hoyt Street would not cause any traffic or safety issues? Do you really think the rejection is simply an automatic --based on some bigotry or anti-affordable housing stance? If you do, then could you explain to me why they are trying to add affordable housing at Allen Oneill and that they approved garden homes? If im not smart--then explain how they approve some projects that are densely populated but on the Post road, yet not on a single lane road in a non-commercial zone? Are they indeed anti -AH? Or simply capable of making smart decisions?
Libby Jones August 11, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Luca, I might have to re-read the patch articles about the P&Z decision b/c I have no memory that the PZ Board rejected the Stefanoni applications to protect neighborhood values... unless you mean that is the subtext. I'm sure there is alot of subtext. Anyway... my memory is good enough to say it was 15 or so units and not 30 on Hoyt. Maybe I am cynical b/c I think the town approved adding housing at Allen O'neil b/c the location is already an aff'ble housing project-- it's already there so it won't add another development in another location in town to get more units. The project is a bit run down and tired looking anyway so by adding more apartments you spruce it up and get the numbers up. Also the Town is not paying a dime to do it and it's not a change in use only in intensity. I think Garden Homes was also approved b/c nothing would change visually and it would be an inconspicuous way to add some affordable units (hide them) and still keep Darien looking unchanged (and at the time they thought it was needed -- without those Avalon points-- to get the moratorium) . The bottom line is IMHO that Planning Board doesn't want Darien to change visually or otherwise. Cynical?... maybe....but I think the facts back it up.
sebastian dangerfield August 12, 2011 at 03:04 am
Its simply a matter of how you want to view things.
You say that they are fine to add affordable housing at Allen Oneill "because its already affordable housing." Ok. true. But if the town were against affordable housing, then it makes no sense to be adding, whether or not the location already has affordable housing. If the town were against affordable housing --then it wouldnt be granting approval to garden homes. Ceteris paribus, you can't say they are against affordable housing, while they endeavor to add many units in various parts of town. Now, if your argument is that they want affordable housng in appropriate locations, and are against affordable housing in inappropriate locations, then I agree. But, I would argue that that is their responsibility as Planning and Zoning. Its not complex. You say the facts back up your contentions, but Im thinking that you look at facts, and rationalize why your opinion about what is what, is right. The pure facts are, without coloring them, is that Darien has added affordable housing in the past 2 years, and has sought , through the Darien Housing Authority, and the State of Connecticut to add even more. Those actually are the facts--unencumbered by cynicism or rationalizing.
Libby Jones August 12, 2011 at 04:25 am
Come on Luca, you know the only reason they approved AON/Garden Homes is because of the threat of 830G and the crazy quest for the short moratoriums... (a genius move by the liberals BTW.. and how hard Darien fell for it!).. Tell me honestly that you believe the town would have done anything in the last 10 years about affordable housing without the threat of 830G projects? The law is hated but it's effective and gets the job done one way or the other-- either the developers get to circumvent zoning or the towns are so afraid that they build/approve things they never would otherwise. It's state gov v. local gov. and the state is getting its way.
sebastian dangerfield August 13, 2011 at 02:48 am
I dont know Libby. Why did they put in Allen Oneill in the first place Why is Clock Hill homes in town? Why did they even have a Darien Housing Authority, if the only reason to approve things, is because of 830 g?
I think there are roughly 200 units of affordable housing in Darien. Not including Garden homes. The vast majority were done without any prompting from 830g. Do I think that Garden Homes was approved because of 830g? Probably. But if that is the only impetus Libby, why wasnt Stefanoni's projects approved? OakCrest? Im thinking that, as I said in my prvious post that in the past affordable housing was granted when the town felt it was appropriate. I think they approve it today when it's appropriate, and reject it, when it is not. If 830g provides a catalyst, so be it--but it does not mean that every project is approved or rejected. The same process that existed thoughout the history of Darien , seems to still exist. If anything, the rate has slowed since Stefanoni came to town. You can apply your sense of cynicism, and skepticism, but the fact still remains that affordable housing existed before 830g--and gets approved and rejected with 830g. People who think that 830g has demonstrably changed the landscape, are not wrong--but they also are not right. Im sure Fred Conze rues the day it was enacted--yet his job has just become tougher--not that his methodology has necessarily changed.
Libby Jones August 13, 2011 at 02:00 pm
The fact that Darien built some affordable housing decades ago (but not one apartment on its own initiative in the last 20 or so years) was due to a few forward thinking individuals (probably Democrats like Evonne Klein) who met with a lot of resistance and legal battles. 830G is not the first law that encourages affordable housing, there are other ones on the books it's just that they don't have any downside if not followed unlike 830G. You are drinking the coolaid to think Darien approves affordable apartments if "appropriate." That's the excuse the Planning boards always give. It's called "code words" that mean the Town doesn't want affordable housing. Just like the now-famous "character of the town". What character? The one without affordable housing, of course! Garden Homes was an existing office building that could effectively "hide" the affordable apartment and was approved because the Board wanted every possible point for the moratorium. I dont think the Stefanonis project, the one next to the train station on West Avenue is any denser than Garden Homes, but it would be a visual change to the neighborhood. That's an argument for that kind of visual "character" zoning, but let's not pretend it's something else. Cynical, yes., but not wrong.
sebastian dangerfield August 13, 2011 at 11:23 pm
If you want to think that every time a unit of affordable housing is approved is because of some reason other than it was appropriate --then it will be hard to convince you otherwise. Clock Hill was approved under Hank Sanders if Im not mistaken, a Republican. But it doesnt matter--who it was approved under. Democrats are known to use other people's money to make themselves feel better about themselves. How many affordable housing charities have recived Evonne's personal money? If she used her own money, rather than dipping into my account- it would be different. The town should not be in the business of building affordable housing--and , while I honestly have no idea, I dont think many( if any) towns make it their business to build affordable housing. In NYC --I know it was Mitchell lama --and in darien DHA--etc. Towns should educate and protect. Not build social policy.
You are fixated on visuals in terms of why things are approved. Fine. Is the Stefanoni project visually unappealing? If you dont know, then it would blow your theory. I think that West Avenue and the Post Road are significantly different. I would expect a more highly dense approval on the Post Road vs West Ave. Do you think that they should be the same? By the way, if I run 4 miles a day since 1997 and tommorow they say its good for preventing lung cancer-will just give me an added reason. Not the only reason. Moratorium pts add to the reason for approval. Not the only reason.
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